Fuck.

"TheOnelectronic" (theoneelectronic) 03/11/2016 at 13:29 • Filed to: None

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Anyone have ideas on how to get this fucker out of the engine block without having to tear the fucking thing apart?

TheHondaBro > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:40

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If it’s free, I’d superglue (or hyperglue or whatever the kids are using nowadays) an old screwdriver or metal rod to it and pull it out once the glue has cured.

woah > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:41

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weld a nut onto it

Leon711 > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:41

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Using a punch or drift, punch a small divot on the outside edge. angle the drift in the divot the way you want to turn and hammer it round.

StoneCold > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:41

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Without tapping it either?

Maybe get some of the GOOD (Read: expensive name brand) epoxy/cold weld and bind the plug to a long ratchet extension. But then you have to be super careful about getting it on the threads, otherwise you WILL have to tap. But that’s the Alabama School of Shade Tree Mechanics’ method.

Honestly, I think taking the head off is the best way, since drilling/tapping is going to get junk in the cylinder anyway.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:42

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Ah shite. Ferd? I’ve heard they have issues that way...

As far as getting it out, I have an idea, but you may get crap in the cylinder. If you can get a vacuum near the spot it might be worth a shot. Take a dremel tool and grind a slot in it. Then use a screwdriver. It’s a long shot since it’s obviously in there well enough to bust a plug, but it’s easier than pulling the heads off so I’d say it’s worth trying.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:43

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your local tool truck pirate will have th e tool for that, don’t know who’s is better though.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:44

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Apply lots of penetrating oil, wait, apply some torque, repeat. These do tend to get galvanic ally welded in over time, at which point the may need to be drilled out and rethreaded.

The Car Talk guys said that manufacturers call them lifetime sparkplugs because they are impossible to get out after a couple years anyway.

JGrabowMSt > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:44

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You could drill into it for a half inch or so and then see if you can work the threads out. Or you can JB weld a screwdriver, socket or whatever else to it and then use channel locks to twist it free. A little JB weld goes a long way.

64Mali > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:46

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You are screwed. Is it a Ford? Also you will need to use a bolt/screw extractor, good luck.

CalzoneGolem > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 13:46

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Easy outs and prayer.

McMike > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed 03/11/2016 at 13:53

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The Car Talk guys said that manufacturers call them lifetime sparkplugs because they are impossible to get out after a couple years anyway.

When first read on Mrs McMike’s last new car that the plug interval was 110K miles, I was like, “Nope”

I pulled them out every 20-25K miles, just to make sure they would.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 14:04

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They make extractor tools for the 3V engines.

FWIW — I’ve never had an issue myself, but my car is garaged and when I do them, it sits for AT LEAST a day beforehand.....

Vid:

TheOnelectronic > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 03/11/2016 at 14:35

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I'm not sure I follow...

Needmoargarage > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 14:35

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledin… is filled with this sort of thing. As mentioned previously, Easy out is probably the only way without pulling the head.

TheOnelectronic > 64Mali 03/11/2016 at 14:38

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Goldwing

TheOnelectronic > StoneCold 03/11/2016 at 14:39

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It's a flat four so it's not hard to get the head off, but are there methods that are any easier at that point?

TheOnelectronic > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 03/11/2016 at 14:41

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Goldwing.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 14:43

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I’d probably just take the head off then, since it’s on a bike and relatively easy.

StoneCold > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 15:21

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If you go with the notch-and-knock method that others have mentioned, being able to apply torque to the bottom and top would definitely increase your chances of getting it out. Also, it’ll give you 1000x better angles if you have to drill.

WRC541 > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 16:35

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helicoil FTW!

 > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 16:49

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If that’s a steel plug inside an aluminum head, see if you can weld a bolt or a nut to the plug and then undo it that way. I’ve done that to extract exhaust studs. Worked out nicely.

TheOnelectronic >  03/11/2016 at 17:37

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It’s pretty deep in there, and there’s very little actual metal left on the plug. It would be quite the challenge.

 > TheOnelectronic 03/11/2016 at 17:52

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If the head is aluminum then you don’t really have to worry about weld coming in contact with it because it won’t effect it. I couldn’t tell how deep it was from that pic. If you are able to weld it until it’s above surface and then weld a nut to it, that might work. If it’s too far down you will need to dump a lot of wire in there though. Might be better off pulling the head.

You could also try broken bolt exctractors though not sure how well it would work on a plug. Before doing anything though I would soak that thing with penetrating oil for 24 hours.

sdwarf36 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 03/11/2016 at 19:30

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Yup. You can fuck with it for 4 hours + hope you dont screw it up worse-Or pull the head in 1 hour + bring it to a machine shop. Where there would set it up in a head machine ( a fancy drill press with a roll over fixture) smash out the porcylin remaining-square up the head using the other plug hole as a guide And carefully drill out the remaining steel. With luck, it comes out when drilled close to the final diameter-in not its all set up to heli-coil it. I’ve had to do jobs like this before. Probably a $50 job.